And just to make things clear - yes, I'm aware that they are both men and women saying those words to other women. Not only men can be opressive, I know that. And I know that this "burning bras" thing never actually happened, but this is what many many people associate feminism with and this is what I am talking about here.
Oh, and I'm superglad if you never heard those words and never been hurt this way, but only because you were lucky and grew up in a friendly society doesn't mean it's always like that. Here, in Poland, for example, we have a huge problem with that. And not only with unkind words and being rude - but with serious violence. Here, have some statistics about Poland:
And I am a male, who say this.
Smh poor husband does your husband get hated at every day? DOES ANY BOY GET HATED AT? DO THEY?
People ask for respect
Do they get it?
Most of the time, no
It shows that at least 40% of the human population are idiots and close-minded
ale zdaję sobie sprawę że tak bywa i jestem wdzięczny ze pokazała to pani ludziom. I taboretom.
About wrong definition of feminism: the idea, real intention of the originator, in any cases isn’t shared by everyone equally. That leads to misunderstandings and myths around the idea, thus creating a different distorted view. And that view can be distorted again by others, and so on. It’s like informational genes, it changes and mutates. And everyone thinks that he or she knows the truth, which is not from the view of origin. More than that, there are a lot of people thinking that their “truth” is the only one and real one. So they do whatever they want, even if that hurts others. But they don’t bother with it, because in their opinion they have the right, they are better, they are truly normal humans; instead those, who doesn’t share their vision are nothing. Well, it’s just my opinion and my impression about some events of my life. I can be wrong at all.
Congrats with DD!
I had thought it was an amusing contrast that people might appreciate; that the point is lost on you is not my onus.
There's a difference here that's not coming through. You're acting as though anything that depicts a woman is in perfect rectitude and represents freedom of expression for the woman depicted -- well I'm saying that it's not always that way. One has to be conscious of the images and expectations foisted upon women, as well. One has to consider what the volume and frequency of certain representations mean when taken together.
It's not that I've missed the point of the comic -- it's pretty blatantly highlighted, after all -- it's that you fail to differentiate between a woman's right to personal expression, on one hand, and anyone's representation of a woman, on the other.
But continuing to view the world in stereotypes is what keeps the system going - and then women end up trying to avoid those stereotypes; and in so doing get other stereotypes. Much like Anti-Sues.
The women in this cartoon are not real women either. Does that change anything?
You're getting more distracted as this (already far too long) train of replies grows ever longer and the crux of the argument is just getting buried. At this point all I can do is let you know that I won't be wasting any more time on these laborious responses, and that if you need clarification you can just read my previous replies -- everything I've wanted to say is there and already clearly put.
I don't think that is what this piece is about though...some women, just like some men can be sexist pigs... don't put that on all of us, any more than we should be putting that on you guys... We're two sides of the same coin, called humanity. Both equal in value and necessary if in different capacities.
But congrats nevertheless.